Lyrically we tried to just not be the same as a lot of the other crap that is out there right now.

Actually, we got signed in November of 2000 with Dreamworks which is the most amazing label. We have friends on other labels and though we are not selling millions of records, yet, they treat us with tons of respect and give us some very good guidance.

Lyrically we tried to just not be the same as a lot of the other crap that is out there right now.

We just wanted to get as far away from the rap-rock scene as possible, because its been done and other bands do it better than us anyway.

A lot of big labels will just sign bands like a write off.

So you have to just be really careful and make sure that when a deal comes along, that it's like the right deal for you... not necessarily the most money, because you have to pay the record label that back in like record sales and stuff.

Whether you like another bands music or not you never know who is going to take you out on tour or who you are going to be friends with and that is just something that is important to us.