The idea of starting with that Kanye [West] song is declarative. It says, "This is the kind of story we're telling."

If we don't keep people engaged, we're not going to move you. And if we move you, we've done something useful. That's what anybody who writes genre knows.

What happens is that the experience of writers working together and the idea of creative collaboration is so delightful, but it has been relegated to TV.

As television is learning some of the movies' great tricks, movies are taking what's good from TV. Maybe it will all become one big thing, with smart, talented people who love a thing, helping each other be better.

I have now become so infatuated with television. I think television has become elegant.

Sometimes you see auteur TV shows and movies, and those are great.

Anything you make has its own wavelength and its own sound. It's like a tuning fork, until the things that resonate are correct for it.