I think people are losing that sense of security pretty fast, frankly.

The book and the film [This Changes Everything] fed into each other in ways that were compounding and very exciting. The pain was shared.

If you have a culture based on hunting and fishing and all the animals are disappearing and the fish are sick, then you can't live traditionally. Then your treaty is being violated. Obviously there are degrees of choice in terms of that decision to fight.

I think that kind of urgency is what makes this stage of the climate movement really different from what it was even a few years ago when it was much more of the professionalized NGOs lobbying behind closed doors and maybe having a march now and then.

The thing that our system is designed to do is keep us alone and isolated in our little consumer bubble. And the most revolutionary act of all might be finding a community of like-minded people where you can talk about these issues and figure out what to do together.

I've always kind of hated films about climate change.

I personally feel very strongly that what it will take is not more disasters, it's that what it will take is a vision of the future that is better than our present.