I wasn't ever good enough to be on the baseball team and that sort of stuff.
When you go in and do a cool, small character, it feels less like work and more like fun.
It's been such a group effort. When you're a new band and you have limited resources, you end up getting people that are there because they love what you do, and that's great.
But I've consistently worked for 10 years.
Even the great bad guys in cinema history, they're likable.
I had a very modest upbringing.