You see, another reason for nationalization was that private ownership meant fragmentation.

It was very much a cry for democratic control at that time. Above all, breaking the accomplished power of a few people to rule the lives of everybody else.

Why get rid of Chamberlain to put in Halifax? It's like getting rid of the organ-grinder to put in the monkey.

You see, another reason for nationalization was that private ownership meant fragmentation.

In politics, guts is all.

And what always struck me about that war period was how even Churchill had to talk socialism to keep up people's morale.

I remember people who'd had a lot of hardship during the war. They'd thought we'd won.