It was disturbing to me that an idea or a song could become something so different from what you originally intended. It's like if a friend took a stupid picture of you at a party on their phone, and the next thing you knew, it was on every billboard.

I'm just taking one step at a time. I could zigzag one way, but it's not usually on purpose.

There's some quality you get when you're not totally comfortable.

I grew up I guess you'd say in the cassette era.

I just go in the studio and write on the spot and see what comes out.

Sometimes, I think the way the music business has been destructive and the way the fans are been put through it and try to navigate through it, so much is so foreign to what musicians would actually want to do or what would be natural to them.

I've done so many albums where I've been in the studio for 14 hours a day for six months just trying to come up with things on my own. It's a nice change helping other people with their music and not being all about what I'm trying to do myself.