So one of the things that happened with integration in the South is they found that the black teachers were much more educated than the white teachers.

The first job I had with the Smithsonian was as a field researcher among African American communities in Southwest Louisiana and Arkansas for the festival.

When I started graduate school I was interested in the culture of the Civil Rights Movement.

So one of the things that happened with integration in the South is they found that the black teachers were much more educated than the white teachers.

I started graduate school in 1971, I started working at the Smithsonian in the festival in 1972. I went full-time at the Smithsonian in 1974. And I got my doctorate in 1975.

If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition.

If we dwell in a community that is comfortable, then it's probably not broad enough a coalition.