So I look at a lot of stuff now that I did and some of it looks tame to me, but my interest in terms of what I want to say with it is a little different

If you're going to establish a certain level of unreality than you have to deal with it

So cartooning, for me, is an honorable thing. It's pushing the envelope. It's the truth of something through exaggeration

After that I jumped, especially being in art school, to the illustrators.

Nothing is really media driven or committee driven, so you can actually just produce something

So there's kind of a simultaneous aspect to pushing the boundaries, and being very safe

I want to say 90% of stuff out there is just crap that got made. The main point is that it got produced.