I just look for characters that have dimensions. If I don't see it written on the page, then I try to put it in there somehow. You don't want to play the same role twice.

I wrote a lot. I was in programs for drawing when I was a kid.

I really started hanging out with Steve [Murphy, the inspiration for Holbrook's character] a lot. I got educated that way. It was crash course. You learn as quickly as possible.

I'm the furthest thing away from a cop.

You don't really have to dress a ton of actors. You don't really have to spend a bunch of money lining up extras to look the time period.

I have a company where I'm trying to get projects off the ground. Me and my partner Madeleine Sackler, we just shot our first feature in a maximum security prison where about 95% of the cast were incarcerated men. We're editing that and there's a doc going with it.

Most difficult is the labeling by other people that models are empty-headed bodies. I think if you look for negativity, you can find it anywhere.