And it should be something that only that group of people could've made with everybody invested.

But initially when I was working with my dad, it was in special effects puppets with radio control and motors and puppet effects.

At that point, I thought probably special effects, something like that, and indeed, the early days when I was working with my dad, after I left school, I only went to less than one year of college, and then I was transferring, and then I delayed my transfer, and I did a movie, and then another movie, and then I never finished college.

And that was always my father's favorite part about shooting as well. Often my dad would shoot very, very late, he was quite a workaholic, they would do 20, 20-hour shoots and stuff like that.

I was already sort of mixing my science physics enthusiasm with entertainment and directing and puppetry.

I think it's a lot richer than what we call fleshy improv, I think it's very funny, puppet improv and fleshy improv.

But curriculum-wise, I was drawn to the sciences and specifically to physics, and I really enjoyed it and I think for a little while there, I was really thinking my schooling would be in physics, that that was something I loved.