I think when I dropped The Eulogy is when it became more [about] feedback because that's when Pitchfork wanted to review it and things like that.

I started making music for fun maybe my senior year in college. I started rapping in high school, but it wasn't anything serious.

In the industry there's this whole mentality of working with someone who can open the door for you, but my whole thing is that I like my work to speak for itself. So I still do have that same mentality.

Now I'm in the business and I do have to have these awkward conversations about how I look, how I talk. But I'm still here.

There are two singles I did with Noah Breakfast, ["Talkin Greezy" and "New Phone (Who Dis),"] which was a cool experience. So it's cool either way, I think. It depends on the relationship you have with the other person - not everybody is going to work the same way.

I was just doing it for fun. I was in college recording music as a joke, so I really didn't think that a career was feasible - being able to travel.

With a lot of people you think you want to work with, you reach out to them about working and then realize you don't want to anymore because they're a complete dickhead.