You don't expect people to go, "music has just been reinvented!" But the hope is that people won't say, "this is the most boring cliché." I mean, that's one of my pursuits, is trying to not become a cliché, or get stuck in that. But even that's a cliché in itself! It's difficult! But I think it's worth it.... It's a real vicious circle there.

Ten people who are into our music is better than three hundred people who are just standing there.

Live is best. You have movement, and I think we should do as much as we can to put that sense of movement in the recorded music.

An acceptance of your cultural inheritance, and at the same time a dislike of it, is a building block of good art.

Tour is disgusting, actually, I have no idea how people do it. Your brain would go to rot, unless you really, really worked hard at making sure it didn't.

These are things that I continue to enjoy speaking about. The woods. Boats. Greeks. I think the real heart of it, is really being in love with these Dutch paintings over the last several years.

The whole idea of civilization as an understandable narrative is a bit nuts. It's the most problematic of delusions.