I do have some theatrical background. I've written plays and seen plays and read plays. But I also read novels. One thing I don't read is screenplays.

The end is built into the beginning.

I like titles that are a little difficult, because it's kind of counterintuitive.

You're dealing with the body, and you're dealing with bodily functions. We romanticize everything about people in movies.

People will say things after a screening that it affects them in a certain way, which is why I don't like to explain what certain things are about. I want them to have that. It limits people's ability to understand something if I say it's "about this." That's happened to us a bunch on this.

I think if something resonates, even if it's surreal, it's because it is relatable and I think that that's a core issue for me.

And so not only do you have to make that work, you can't really start putting the thing together in any form because some of the shots are very short and obviously many of them take so long, you're waiting months and months and months before you can see if it's going to be working emotionally.