But when I would see the surrogate, my first instinct, my first reaction would be jealousy, because she was doing what I wanted to do.

Well, I guess, but I just feel so strong. Actually, it was probably when I was 50 that we were trying to - to get pregnant, and I thought that I could do it then.

I think you’re never the same person when you close a book as when you open one; it changes your life very subtly.

No, but women are saying, and they say, are you crazy? But because they've had children since they were 20 years old. I haven't. So I had a child when I was 43, and now he's really out with his friends.

I think it affected me physically and emotionally, yes. I did have my ups and downs, but I actually had more ups and downs after the shots were finished and she was pregnant because of the reality of being pregnant with twins.

Biological age, I think because I've been taking care of myself for so long I know not just my reproductive organs but my heart, you know, are much younger than - than what I am.

She's 32, and she has three children. She loves to be pregnant but she doesn't want anymore children in her life. So she decided to help another couple. And she's just been amazing.