Sleepin' in the truck wasn't so bad. Shoot, I kind of liked that, myself.

I can remember sittin in a cafe when I first started in rodeo, and waitin until somebody got done so I could finish what they left.

Why not just do something a little more on the gentle side?

The breeding programs for the bulls have improved significantly. The bulls are at a much higher caliber.

I really didn't go that hard, although a couple of years I did. Some guys work 125 to 130 rodeos a year. they're just goin' all the time.

If you're lucky enough to draw a good horse, you still have to ride him, then the next ones. So It's probably 80 percent luck and 20 percent skill.

When you get a little older, you think, I'd like to make a little money and stick it away or buy a place - or win the world championship.