There was no way to have a decent life and to be gay. So I was terrified that I was going to be caught, and I had already experienced quite a bit of bullying. And, you know, I just thought that only misery lay ahead, and that if I - when I got caught that would be the solution. I wish I could say that was a thing of the past. But, you know, it's not.

Even today every year we lose an awful lot of young people, teenagers, who take their own lives because they're - they are gay or transgender.

The sense of urgency has almost completely vanished.

We spend countless hours talking about people's feelings and issues that aren't going to change anything.

A whole lot of the way identity politics has gone seems to me to deny empathy.

The penalties for homosexual conduct were - would vary from state to state, but they were - it was a felony in most states punishable with prison terms of varying lengths.

I do believe that non-violent civil disobedience is a very important and useful tactic.