The reality is that the shows kind of disconnect from the songs a little bit. You're playing the songs, but they take on a life of their own.

Some people I've talked to have had really an interpretation of this record as being nostalgic. But in some ways, when we were writing Stay Positive, I was really obsessed with age. I kept saying it was a record about trying to age gracefully. This record, I think actually was us aging gracefully.

The Catholic influence just comes from being raised Catholic, going to church every Sunday, being confirmed, going to church on holy days. So it's coming from where I am. It serves the purpose of having people who have a base or foundation where they know what's right.

I think the other thing that shaped me a little bit is that I really didn't have any success in music until my early to mid-30s.

The critics and hardcore music fans, those are the people you have to get to first, so we're really happy about it.

Just looking into something kind of analytically can give a lot of ideas.

Sometimes people come up and say, "You have this line in this song and it meant a lot to me." You don't always remember that line as the one. You're putting part of your human being on the page so people are going to have different responses - the other humans are going to connect with different parts.