I think the more removed I feel, the more I warm up to the role of singer.

Generally, if you could picture a bunch of rock and roll momentum behind a song and it was particularly melodious, maybe the Pornographers would do it. If it was kind of moody and more lyrical, then maybe it would be a Destroyer song. Anything that's really lyrically driven I would keep for Destroyer.

It's actually really stereotypical that someone should be 40 and mellow out, but I think it's more about trying to conjure up a different intensity in my head, one where I'm more focused as a singer and hands-on with music and more exacting, and less trying to furiously fit a thousands thoughts into a four minute song.

Really good musicians don't think of "self-reflection."

There are too many Destroyer records to just start rattling them left them off, but they're there.

I force myself to care about the music end by wrestling with it for years.

I'm probably more into a more spacious, even meditative, quiet delivery of singing.