I'm probably more into a more spacious, even meditative, quiet delivery of singing.

I always start with the lyrics, because starting with the music means the words will be bad.

Of course, no lyrics are ever unintentional, but I think bands like Wolf Parade and the Arcade Fire have a tendency to touch on big themes without really following through on them or tying them in to a particular logic.

I'm probably more into a more spacious, even meditative, quiet delivery of singing.

Even though people like to say Destroyer [albom] is gibberish and all that, I usually know exactly what I'm saying at every single moment.

The more I abandon ideas of myself as a musician, the better a singer I become.

I actually do see rock and roll as pop music. I think the distinction I was making was that I was going out of my way to have a very consistent approach to production, where nothing kind of punctures the reality - or, I guess, the fake reality - of the album and what you're listening to from beginning to end.