I was doing stuff that for me was sort of more about playing real music.

I didn't have to see this big clock on the wall and worry. Most of the record I made was experimental. If you have a lot of time to do that you don't have to worry about the money, plus, I had no money. It was more out of necessity than choice.

I realized the more I made the music for myself, the more successful I was becoming.

I just did whatever it took to keep making music - I slept on couches. You would be amazed at how far $20 can go if you stretch it out.

For me there is a reluctance to be in front of cameras. I love making music but with that comes a lot of responsibility and you have to put yourself out there more.

I gave up that idea of trying to make music that I thought other people would want. I just made music for myself and music for people that I knew.

I think people want to put you in a box and close it away so that it makes them feel better. A lot of musicians get that.