I've rarely kept my distance from kind of - I don't know if we can call it politics, but kind of, civic engagement and that kind of thing, except I tended to think, 'Well, do it yourself before you start telling other people what they should be doing.'

I'd like to be known for more than being the guy in the big suit.

Yeah, it's pretty hard not to be completely cynical these days.

Artists are notoriously snooty and suspicious of anything coming from the business community.

Well, Marx is having a comeback. I hear him mentioned a lot in terms of the global financial situation and the general sense of injustice out there. A lot of economic experts in America refer to him without actually using the M word, but he's around.

Frank Lloyd Wright... his things were beautiful but not very functional.

Yeah, anybody can go in with two turntables and a microphone or a home studio sampler and a little cassette deck or whatever and make records in their bedrooms.