So it's a mistake for someone to think that they bailed New York out. They did assist us, for which we are grateful, but it's a mistake to say we bailed New York out by giving them a grant of money to help those poor people who throw it away on welfare.

Well, I think I am a very, very lucky person. I'm very fortunate.

I went downtown as a lawyer and then I worked in a liquor store at night, as I had done all through law school. And so when I got to the point where I could give up the night job, I joined the political club.

You can't twist Al Sharpton's arm.

But I make the observation that no one of us would do things exactly alike.

I finished law school in '56, but I was working two jobs.

But the courts have dismissed the lawsuits against me and Lee Brown.