Modernism in a way, early modernism, for instance, in pictures, was turning against perspective and Europe. And all early modernism is actually from out of Europe, when you think of cubism is African, is looking at Africa, Matisse is looking at the arabesque, Oceania. Europe was the optical projection that had become photography, that had become film, that became television and it conquered the world.

Yes, I did, I mean I painted er, in a kind of abstract expressionist way, because of course that was exciting.

I was aware that the teaching of drawing was being stopped almost 30 years ago. And I always said, 'The teaching of drawing is the teaching of looking.' A lot of people don't look very hard.

Well you can't teach the poetry, but you can teach the craft.

I'm sure that the camera is part of European art.

I'm really only interested in technology that is about pictures. I'm interested in anything that makes a picture.

I'm not going to stop painting just to take orders.