I don't know if it [Mary and Jane] is a do-over or wanting someone to have made certain entertainment for us that did not exist when we were that age, but we keep going back and doing it again. I have a 12-year-old girl now and I want to make things that will speak to her. Things that will that have lessons for her to take away.

I was trying to think of a word that was not offensive. Yeah, Harry [Elfont] is right - it is kind of a different MTV for sure.

I don't know if it [Mary and Jane] is a do-over or wanting someone to have made certain entertainment for us that did not exist when we were that age, but we keep going back and doing it again. I have a 12-year-old girl now and I want to make things that will speak to her. Things that will that have lessons for her to take away.

To be fair, that MTV was very cooperative with the film [ "Josie and the Pussycats" ], and this MTV has been very cooperative. I actually didn't even think about it until you said it.

I actually didn't even think about "Josie and the Pussycats" . I was like, "Oh yeah we kind of took some shots at MTV," but I think everyone had a good sense of humor about it. People either got that movie completely, or completely missed it and dumped all over it.

It is not an easy thing to do [found the tone right away].

There are more stakes [in Mary and Jane], which is always good.