And that Newman wasn't, and yet to me Pollock is just as radical and unlike Expressionism as Newman.

I think most of the art now is involved with a denial of any kind of absolute morality, or general morality.

Well, there's a morality in that you want your work to be good, I suppose.

Design has to work. Art does not.

Well, in any art there are a lot of technical things that you can get to like.

The older painting - well, it does have an effect all at once, I suppose, but it's of a lesser intensity than a lot of the American work in the last ten or fifteen years.

In the summer there are twelve cottonwoods around the pool, which in the winter become an elevated thicket. There is also a courtyard with a small garden of plants that stay green all year. The winter is bleak. This place is primarily for the installation of art, necessarily for whatever architecture of my own that can be included in an existing situation, for work, and altogether for my idea of living.