Sometimes songs need extra time and space to really play themselves out, and some songs it's like, this is all you need, a straightforward thing.

For me, I'm more of a songwriter than a guitar player or singer. And not having things to work on was really kind of nice.

It's really hard for me to capture this certain way of singing that sounds good to me. I don't really understand it, but hopefully some day I'll figure it out.

That's one of those hazards of an interview: You get tired of your stock answer and you try to get creative and even play devil's advocate.

A lot of overdubs from the last couple of records had to do with me being insecure about the way my voice sounds or the way I play guitar. I would want to mask it with extra things, or keep every moment super exciting. With the newest record, I tried my best to back off, and if something wasn't interesting at every moment, or if my voice didn't sound that good, just let it go and accept it.

If people like electronic music, then great - let that be the next thing. I don't think I ever really will, but there's plenty of records for me to go buy.

If you know that someone is going to hear what you're doing, you're always going to be self-conscious about it. In a way that's good; it spurs you on.