When I was a teenager, I got into four track recorders, drum machines, and synthesizers, and I started producing instrumental music.

I did a song, "Court and Spark," for a Joni Mitchell tribute album that's yet to see the light of day. So she's someone I'd like to do something with, sure. I worked with the great guitar player Bill Frisell on Phantom Moon - that was fun. I'm such a fan; he's amazing.

My second record was all about big ideas - I was trying to make big statements about the culture, about life. I think in a certain way, I was a 27 year old kid with a guitar

I started playing music at a pretty young age

So, once I've written a song, you know, I'm pretty happy with what the song is on its own terms.

I actually am always a music first person

A real foolproof way to do it is play your stuff by hook or by crook and build up a grass roots following