I understand what the dynamic of the brand Ed Gordon has been all these years. I'm just trying to keep that as real and as honest as I can and I don't take it lightly.

I hope I've grown. We all should grow from year to year.

I think the best comparable is Bryant Gumbel's "Real Sports," in the sense that it's quarterly as well. So that's what we're doing, a quarterly special, an hour, three to four stories each hour.

Certainly there is a depression I think a lot of Black folks are getting ready to have come January [2017] and that might be an interesting story to tell.

I want to find those stories that we may talk about at the barbecue or when we're playing bid whist or with our cousins watching TV, but you don't see it on television. Certainly it's perspective.

I feel like, I mean, there's no new wheel, you know. A newsmagazine is what it is.

We're looking at a story we want to call "Am I Black enough for you?" That's that whole question of who determines what "Black enough" is. Is it color? And if it's color, then are you telling me that Clarence Thomas is Blacker than Louis Farrakhan? If it's not color then what's the line that determines whether you are?