I was surprised recently to find a book called "Poetry in Persons" that's coming out about visit to poets to a class that Pearl London gave.

So, the process of revision, it's not systematic. But for me, I mean, I know a lot of poets who write out a draft and then revise it and I think they're happier people. But, I'm just not able to do it that way. I need to just continually examine it as I do it.

Now, that can be a traditional form or it can be something you're inventing. It can be the development of a metaphor, the working through of a metaphor.

And my experience is the best titles, for me, emerge in the process of writing. They don't usually come at the very beginning and hopefully they don't come at the very end because then it's getting late in the day.

I didn't sit down then and start writing poems, but it was in the back of my mind.

And when I'm writing well and when I'm inside the feeling, then I can do fairly complicated things with some fluency.

So, it's a continual process of trial and error and then I find things and I throw it out and start again, but I keep writing it over again.