I was surprised recently to find a book called "Poetry in Persons" that's coming out about visit to poets to a class that Pearl London gave.

So, it's a continual process of trial and error and then I find things and I throw it out and start again, but I keep writing it over again.

The very good thing about MFA programs is their democratizing. They bring a lot of different people to the table.

Then I found another one, grandpa's poem. It turned out it had been written by Emily Brontë and it wasn't my grandfather's poem at all, although my response to it, I think, was pretty much the same, I just had the author wrong.

The poets needed to learn to pay greater attention to character and to narrative.

In high school I was leafing through an anthology that our teachers had given up and I found a poem, I go, "That's so strange. This poem looks so much like my grandfather's poem."

I think it's true that that's something that poetry can go to school on fiction. I think poetry can go to fiction to learn.