And that's not something I'm willing to support, it's not something I'm willing to build and it's not something I'm willing to live under.

They are intent on making every conversation and every form of behaviour in the world known to them.

We have to be able to reject disproportionate and unjustified responses in the cyber domain just as we do in the physical domain.

We have to confront the reality of our world, and make the hard decisions about which way we want to move forward.

We have to recognise that rights are being violated. The United Nations actually filed a report that found that that was the case, that mass surveillance is a violation of rights.

I'm not a politician, and I do not think I am as effective in this way as people who actually prepare for it - is to focus on technical reform, because I speak the language of technology. I spoke with Tim Berners-Lee, the guy who invented the World Wide Web. We agree on the necessity for this generation to create what he calls the Magna Carta for the Internet. We want to say what "digital rights" should be. What values should we be protecting, and how do we assert them.

I describe it as tribalism because they're very tightly woven communities. Lack of civility is part of it, because that's how Internet tribes behave. We see this more and more in electoral politics, which have become increasingly poisonous.