That's one of the biggest issues that we see in the question of governments right now, I think, in the Western world. Is that increasingly all of our elected officials are pulled from the same class. These aren't normal people. I don't want to say they're all terrible people, but at the same time, they're not like you and me. These are people who have sort of a nine to five working history.

As for labeling someone a whistleblower, I think it does them - it does all of us - a disservice, because it "otherizes" us.

There are proxies, proxy servers on the internet, and this is very typical for hackers to use. They create what are called proxy chains where they gain access to a number of different systems around the world, sometimes by hacking these, and they use them as sort of relay boxes.

Nobody's going to vote for Isis.

All I wanted was for the public to be able to have a say in how they are governed. That is a milestone we left a long time ago.

The question for us is not what new story will come out next. The question is, what are we going to do about it?

There is more action in some other countries. In Germany, they've called for a very serious inquiry that's discovering more and more. They've just discovered a significant violation of the German Constitution that had been concealed from the Parliament.