I've been doing four-track songs by myself since I was like a teenager, where I'd sing in a way that I ... I just didn't think other people would like it, so I didn't play it for them but eventually I got over that, which I'm happy that I did, because it's kind of a drag to be playing a kind of music that you don't really like as much as another kind.

I was trying to do the same thing that I always do which is make an interesting record

Somewhere where people aren't so mad would be nice, but I don't know if there is anywhere like that.

If you play acoustic guitar you're the depressed, sensitive guy.

It touches on drug use. I got caught up in that for almost two years.

I went walking around the city some more, people watching with a cold, blank stare. And I saw your face in everyone, I swear.

But I was also doing odd jobs around Portland, like spreading gravel and transplanting bamboo trees.