You can take a picture of New York and one person looking at it will think it looks really depressing, frightening; and someone else will look at it and think of all the fun things you can do in New York. I think songs are kinda like that.

I was trying to do the same thing that I always do which is make an interesting record

Theres a bunch of Elvis Costello records that made all the difference between feeling like a total freak and feeling like ... only a freak. A freak among other freaks

People are so... seem so chaotic internally, but being filtered through some form, like making a record, sort of filters it down into something that can be understood.

I watched myself put my paw in the bear trap on that one because there was this clause about leaving members

But I was also doing odd jobs around Portland, like spreading gravel and transplanting bamboo trees.

A lot of people are kind of depressed. I'm happy some of the time, and some of the time I'm not.