It's funny because my main awkwardness around writing the song had little to do with the method.

I wanted to touch on the piece where often politicians use "god" to excuse their actions.

As I've gotten older, I have gotten a lot better at finding the pleasures of making music despite the business of it.

When I began writing songs, there was a pretty direct line between what was happening in my life and what I wrote about. So my first album was really all about my failed attempts to make a particular relationship work.

It's funny because my main awkwardness around writing the song had little to do with the method.

My approach to writing and recording now is pretty much the same as when I started. Except now I worry even less about what people will think of what I made. And I am not drunk.

I started to understand what the song could be about. The ache of nostalgia even for things we don't like, the commitment to keep moving despite that ache. It made me think of how I relate to my privilege - as a white person, as someone who grew up upper middle class.