I think people like feeling miserable just as much as they like feeling happy.

Real music is what I consider to be uncorporatized music, the music that just happens. I feel like that's not a very well-known thing.

Working in factories and things like that, it just puts a little hair on your chest.

I wouldn't consider myself a songwriter at all. Maybe I piece together a certain little thing here and there, but songwriters are people who do this with sheet music.

I don't associate much with anybody. I'm not big on all the teachings and groups and being a part of something, I guess.

You have a history of art-music that you equate with music. That's what I love about that term art-music. It separates itself from music-music, the music people have always made.

I feel like there's the people's music, and there's corporate music.