I always like to borrow bits and pieces of things. There's a line between jumping on something that's happening and incorporating bits and pieces of it into my work.

It's rare when I feel like I can extract a lyrical message out of combining two things together.

When I would play pop music at underground shows, it was offensive to some people. I wasn't doing it to piss people off: I just didn't believe in those strong divisions that you're supposed to listen to this or that.

Me and my friends would drive for eight hours to play for twenty people. That was cool, and if a couple of people bought t-shirts, that would be the greatest thing. We could go eat some hamburgers that night.

I want to make something that's fun to listen to but still challenging and unique.

I feel like all the artists that I really love, they've had a strong contingent of people who really hate their work as well.

I wasn't trying to make a following. I was just trying to make interesting music. That's not being modest, that's just being realistic.