I don't think we had a hard time with ["Mary and Jane"]. It is just, it was the constant management of it.

Somebody said, there is no show if it goes legal. But actually, there is.

We also had an "in" with MTV those days. Tara Reid was engaged to Carson Daly. She just called him and was like, "Do you want to be in the movie?" So they kind of had to make it work.

We did want it ["Mary and Jane"] to feel a little different and have some surreal weird touches, which we try to do every episode. That is what we took advantage of.

It feels like a totally different MTV now.Now they have all their own original series, and people are talking about going back to music now? It's all original programming.

We feel like we are using the East Side to kind of spoof what everybody thinks is cool.

The pilot is easy. It is 30 minutes, 20 minutes. It is not that much to juggle.