I still think that I'm playing instruments, not just pushing buttons and there it goes. It's interactive and alive with the sound and the manipulation and it plays like instruments.

With a rock band, you play the same things over and over and over.

I got tired of different drum sounds so you buy different effects for more manipulation.

I'm interested in stories and the dark side of peoples' minds.

I still think that I'm playing instruments, not just pushing buttons and there it goes. It's interactive and alive with the sound and the manipulation and it plays like instruments.

Mars is really different, into art. Lydia Lunch is more energy. James Chance is more commercial in a different way, in funk and jazz. They were all doing original things, trying to create their own sound and music. I think they're all great.

So now I don't have time to practice drums. It's been five years since I've touched the drums.