I don't pay much attention to sports.

They realize that spending millions to save billions is just good business.

I don't pay much attention to sports.

I know I'm intellectually capable of finding a series of things and making hundreds of millions. I have to get there and do it. Carefully. Legally.

Well, I think the great tragedy in American politics is what is legal, not what is illegal.

I did this within a philosophical framework, and a moral and legal framework. And I have been turned into a cartoon of the greatest villain in the history of lobbying.

Well, I don't think most Americans are playing the super-PAC game. I think what you have is elites on both sides playing the super-PAC game.