The unions still have a job to do, representing their members' interests to governments and parliaments. And I think collective agreements still have a role, alongside markets and laws.

For me, socialism has always been about liberty and solidarity, but also about responsibility.

The European model is, first, a social and economic system founded on the role of the market, for no computer in the world can process information better than the market.

We will have to create an avant-garde.... We could have a Union for the enlarged Europe, and a Federation for the avant-garde.

The unions still have a job to do, representing their members' interests to governments and parliaments. And I think collective agreements still have a role, alongside markets and laws.

My problem is how to find the best way of being useful.

If you don't have collective agreements between unions and employers, governments have to legislate more.