I didn't start playing music really until I was 18/19, so it was a relatively new thing. I didn't play much music in school.

At the end of the day music is a grind. You're constantly working at it and even with playing shows as well. If your schedule isn't planned right it could really throw things off, but honestly at the end of the day its incredible being able to go to so many places.

When I started out making music I thought it was about thrills and adding layers, but I realized I want to focus on saying the most with the least.

What we understand to be profoundness, or importance, it changes. It should change. It should be this moment where you cannot believe that equalled grandness or importance.

With music, it feels natural that, in my head, I can pull things apart and then put them back together very quickly.

You play a couple of shows, and these label guys come - and they leave halfway through a show. Then the phone calls just stop. And your heart is broken.

The idea of trying to predict what people will or won't respond to is risky.