I would argue that there's been a backlash this year [2016]. They [the Kochs] pushed the [Republican] party too far right. The other thing that the backlash is against is the sense that politicians have been bought and sold.
Jane MayerThere are some areas where the Kochs are on the same page with [Donald] Trump. He doesn't believe in global warming. He says it's a hoax .
Jane MayerTorture is illegal, both in the U.S. and abroad. So - and that is true for the Bush administration and for any other administration.
Jane Mayer