In fact, Charles Koch tried to get [Mike] Pence to run for the White House in 2012.

There have been waves of reform in the past. I see no reason why they wouldn't happen again.

There's a difference between those two [George Soroses and the Tom Steyers] and the Kochs that I think is important.

It's hard for them to run away from their record. The Kochs are businessmen.

I would argue that there's been a backlash this year [2016]. They [the Kochs] pushed the [Republican] party too far right. The other thing that the backlash is against is the sense that politicians have been bought and sold.

One of the oddities of this election is the man that [Donald] Trump chose as his vice-president, Mike Pence, is one of the Kochs' favourite politicians.

If you have an informed electorate, it makes great choices.