I think a big problem with art school is that it makes people feel like they have to be interested in everything that's of high quality.

When I went to college, and I went to art school, I started to realize that Warhol was cool and that pop art was fun.

There is a fascination with violence and power in all modernism, and I sort of saw classic modernism as being more similar to Wyndham Lewis than to the Renaissance. It's not about flow and the presence of humanism and all those things.

I think what I do is find a cliché and try to believe in it, try to get to where I don't laugh at it.

A lot of the acting students would do modeling in the arts school, so there were some gorgeous girls, but the cliché in our school was to get either the really emaciated person or the really obese person - which is stupid.

A lot of times maturing as an artist is just starting to do the things you like to do.

You have to like everything that you're painting. Maybe on a narrative level it seems harsh... but I like everything in all my paintings. It's as if you need to be less intelligent at that level.