A bands first albums usually not great. When you made the first album, you had a day job and you were still trying to be serious about it.

My son, who sees me almost every day of his life, will look at me and go, "I know that dude! I like that dude!" It's incredibly affirming.

Labor for a lot of people has a negative connotation. But not for me. I always want to be working.

The studio's a collaborative environment. I just try to let people bring their own ideas to the songs and see what happens.

What's funny is that people think, "Well there has to be something more than wrestling, because wrestling has such an absurd quality to it." But if you tell a love story, people don't ask what else is in there. They say, "Oh, it's just a love story." All stories have many levels, but these ones show their hand and say, "You might want to look a little deeper."

I still get really excited looking at stuff that I've seen every day for 20 years.

I just started going to shows. I don't know how submerged I am: I feel guilty that I don't get out more, but I really like being inside the house.