I was working at this club in downtown L.A. from four to eight at night, just Eddie Rubin, the drummer, and I.

Guys like Otis Blackwell and Bobby Darin, and all the guys who were writing songs for Elvis at the time, just hanging around, writing songs, talking about music.

When I came back to California in the early '60s I was hanging out with Jimmy Bowen, Phil Spector, and I wanted to be a record producer and work with other artists.

About two months into the Whisky, I borrowed some money and rented a remote recording truck.

I think after 1970 or so, after I sold Soul City, I took off for awhile and didn't do too many gigs.

I was working at this club in downtown L.A. from four to eight at night, just Eddie Rubin, the drummer, and I.

One thing will lead to another and somebody will come up with a riff or a line or something we build from.