Lotta people don't realize when you grow up with people, you have an affinity, a relationship you don't get with anyone else. After you're twenty years old, anyone you meet after that, it's different from the people you knew before.

It took me a long time to reach the decision to retire, actually, from the Art Ensemble.

So okay, I accepted, and I realized while working for that concert that I'd been missing something very important and vital to me, and that something was music.

People doing the kind of sound research that I'm interested in still have a difficult time.

We were doing performance art as far back as 1965, just not calling it that.

I've been informed by both sides, jazz, western music, Asian music, African music, all sides, because I've been interested in the sound of the universe, and that sound is without limit.

In fact, since no one's been interested in my work, I took the responsibility recently to invest in my own work, so I'm producing a concert that was done at the Vision Festival in May.