Vaclav Havel was a really popular leader. He couldn't believe that he was really there. I mean, he still dressed in black T-shirts and jeans and was very kind of '60s. And he began to realize the seriousness of it. And he knew how to strategize. And he had a very keen political sense, but he didn't want to be like the old communist leaders.
Judy WoodruffPresident Trump say that relations between the United States and Russia may be at their lowest point since the end of the Cold War.
Judy WoodruffWe haven't learned to be the majority party. We haven't learned how to lead. We're still stuck in the opposition.
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