I'm really interested in the nondefinitive element of abstraction.

The investigation of making is illuminating towards that moment rather than the other way around, a reversal of the way that I would approach making a painting before. I think that it gets to a richer illumination of the moment, which is what I was trying to do at the beginning but going about it a little backwards.

I'm really interested in the nondefinitive element of abstraction.

You're not just this person who's from your own specific experiences, but the collective experience of what makes you who you are because of time.

Race always comes up in the conversation of Detroit.

The earlier, more analytic impulse was to use very rational but kind of absurd techniques or tendencies—mapping, charting, and architecture—to try and make sense of who I was in my time and space and political environment. But there’s only so much truth to a theoretical understanding of something.

I always wanted to be an artist, but I didn't really know how someone could make a life out it.