We're kind of a weird band anyway, where we never fit in with indie or pop. We never really sat with either of those genres fully.

In all honesty, we never tried to get the number-one song anywhere anyway.

We kind of write pop songs, but we don't fit in the pop world. We're really bad at being pop stars and walking down red carpets. We've got our own little bubble, which we really like. We've learned to really like that.

I think the best thing for us is to just write songs that we like.

We're kind of a weird band anyway, where we never fit in with indie or pop. We never really sat with either of those genres fully.